Wednesday, August 10, 2005

Rowley on Iraq

Coleen Rowley is just the latest gadfly to declare Iraq a "quagmire" in today’s Star Tribune. Rowley also called the peacekeeping mission an “occupation,” doing a great disservice to the American men and women in Iraq, including the son of her opponent.

Rowley weak on terrorism? Told you so. She will be lucky if her campaign will make it to the first of the year.

13 Comments:

At 11:06 AM, Anonymous John said...

WOW!!! The DCCC must be going nuts!! They have to be praying that Daly gets into this race again, Rowley is a black eye to the Dems with her just plain weird activities. Campaigning in Rochester? I'm now waiting to see the 6th district candidates showcase an event in Duluth!

 
At 12:22 PM, Blogger neil said...

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At 12:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Silly Republicans, the war in Iraq was never about terrorism until we made it that way...

 
At 1:41 PM, Anonymous PDW58 said...

If Rowley is all wet, how about a comparison?
Vietnam: Purpose for getting in.. mysterious Communist domino effect.
Iraq: Purpose for getting in... mysterious link to global terror.

Enemy:
Vietnam: North Vietnamese insurgents blending in with our SV allies.
Iraq: Native Iraqi insurgents who blend in with the populace.

Allies:
Vietnam: Tacit European approval (with few troops) that declined over time.
Iraq: Limited coalition (few troops with the exception of UK) and declining world support.

Financial Burden:
Vietnam: overwhelmingly US
Iraq: overwhelmingly US

Exit Strategy:
Vietnam: train South Vietnamese to fight on their own. (dismal failure)
Iraq: train Iraqis to fight on their own. (so far, dismal failure)

Public Support problems:
Vietnam: civilian massacres by a few out of control soldiers.
Iraq: Abu Ghraib prison abuse by a few out of control soldiers.

Pentagon mistakes:
Vietnam: Thought troops would be welcomed, underestimated the enemy, underestimated troop strength needed, exit strategy unknown.
Iraq: Thought troops would be welcomed, underestimated the enemy, still having troop strength problems, and exit strategy unknown.

Given all that, how is this NOT a quagmire?

 
At 2:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every American who voted GOP in 2004 shares the blame for every American casualty since January 21, 2005.

Things are getting better? As long as Rummy wants to do Iraq 'on the cheap' and not face reality and send the massive forces needed since March, 2003, with the armored vehicles they need to protect themselves while they crush the insurgents, American men and women will die in the desert.


Whose fault is it? Not Coleen Rowley's.

Iraq is Bush's Tar Baby. He's stuck with it.
The tragedy is that our boys die while he vacations in Crawford.

 
At 8:36 PM, Blogger Michael M said...

If our country is at war, why is our President on a five week vacation?

 
At 5:33 AM, Blogger jmjm said...

You’re right, it’s not just an occupation as Coleen points out…it’s bungled occupation!

Any talk of Democracy is a smoke screen for our illegal occupation, one that was determined only after dubya declared ‘mission accomplished’.

Muslims, especially Arab Muslim political cultures, are simply not malleable enough so that they can be transformed into democracies. Hundreds of years of history supports this. There are few genuine democracies in the Muslim world and not one in the Arab world.

Muslim culture lacks three prerequisites for establishing democracy: (1) the belief that the source of political authority is intrinsic to their society, (2) any concept of majority rule, and (3) an acceptance that all citizens are equal in law.

Without the belief of a political authority verses a religious authority, there is no chance of any empowered ‘oppositions’ or pluralism. And why carry out elections if the concept of majority rule isn’t in place and not supported by the acceptance of political authority? Also, the Muslim Arab does not accept all as equal under law meaning they can’t be a democracy. The incompatibility of Islamic values with Western Democracy is fundamentally exclusive of each other.

The Bush administration has failed to grasp these fundamental differences and continues to try and turn a bat into a butterfly. It just won’t happen especially by force.

Democracy doesn’t come at the end of a gun…

 
At 5:33 AM, Blogger jmjm said...

You’re right, it’s not just an occupation as Coleen points out…it’s bungled occupation!

Any talk of Democracy is a smoke screen for our illegal occupation, one that was determined only after dubya declared ‘mission accomplished’.

Muslims, especially Arab Muslim political cultures, are simply not malleable enough so that they can be transformed into democracies. Hundreds of years of history supports this. There are few genuine democracies in the Muslim world and not one in the Arab world.

Muslim culture lacks three prerequisites for establishing democracy: (1) the belief that the source of political authority is intrinsic to their society, (2) any concept of majority rule, and (3) an acceptance that all citizens are equal in law.

Without the belief of a political authority verses a religious authority, there is no chance of any empowered ‘oppositions’ or pluralism. And why carry out elections if the concept of majority rule isn’t in place and not supported by the acceptance of political authority? Also, the Muslim Arab does not accept all as equal under law meaning they can’t be a democracy. The incompatibility of Islamic values with Western Democracy is fundamentally exclusive of each other.

The Bush administration has failed to grasp these fundamental differences and continues to try and turn a bat into a butterfly. It just won’t happen especially by force.

Democracy doesn’t come at the end of a gun…

 
At 5:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Comparisions between Iraq and Vietnam

The Bush administration responded today to comparisons between the war in Iraq and the Vietnam War.

Whitewash spokesman Cott Mistellin spoke to reporters, "There is no comparison. We're only staying until the government we're creating is secure from attacks by the population. That's called democracy and definitely not nation building by the way. Besides, we have to stay to protect our troops, which we sent there. So we need to keep sending more troops to protect the troops we sent there, who are there so we can protect them. It's not a quagmire, just one of those things where you get stuck and keep getting more stuck as you try to work your way out."

National Insecurity Advisor Cottmeelyin Twyce added, "This is so different form Vietnam. Nixon had a 'secret plan' and we have a series of actionable items which will fix everything. The last memo entitled 'G-d we are so totally screwed over there!' was just historical information based on old reporting.

Army General Wes T. Morrlend commented from his base at Dyn-bin-Few in Iraq, "We find this behavior of the Iraqis lately a Tad Offensive, and we're not going to take it. We're definitely winning, and these attacks all over the country only prove how right we are. All I need is a lot more troops, just to really win, cause things are going just fine.
Don't believe what you hear from the media unless they’ve been in bed er..embedded with our troops!”

Prezident Bush himself chimed in, "There's definitely no comparison, I mean Vietnam has jungles and Iraq is all desert and sand, no trees or water so that's a total difference. I should know, I served during Vietnam, defending the skies over Alabama from the Vietcong Air Force on one or two days."

http://www.hoolinet.com/IraqandtheMisuseoftheWaronTerror/IraqandVietnamComparisons/tabid/92/Default.aspx

 
At 7:02 AM, Blogger Republican Minnesota said...

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At 8:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I might want to remind you that President Bush whom you so lionize has referred to it as an occupation. As in, "I wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either."

 
At 12:11 PM, Blogger Republican Minnesota said...

See, I don't think it's an occupation, that's just my opinion. Sorry to disappoint, but I don't agree with the President on everything, this just happens to be one occasion.

 
At 8:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rowley happens to be the candidate who will speak the truth. Wouldn't it be refreshing to have someone in office who lives in reality? Iraq is a fiasco that has made Americans the bullseye for terrorists. Now that our citizens have opened their eyes, of course Rowley will win.

 

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