Friday, August 05, 2005

EMILY’s Lister backs off statements

After realizing that there is no way this lefty can compete with my superior intellect, he or she has decided to deny being An employee/volunteer with EMILY’s List and now denies ever believing statement’s on protecting a woman’s right to privacy.

Then:
Privacy is a right protected by the constitution. At EMILY's list, we help women running for office that support the right to privacy for women. Killing babies is a crime in the United States, and we do not support anyone who kills babies.

Now:

It was a fucking joke. You called it baby killing as part of your rhetoric. Jesus Christ, I was making an absurdist statement, glad you caught on. I was not the one who brought up abortion; it isn't even a big issue for me. You were the wise-ass that brought up the issue, and I, as a troll, decided to lead you on.This will be shocking to you: I don't even work for EMILY's List!. I have an EMILY's List IP because I work in the same building and use their open wifi hub. I don't want my boss to know that I'm wasting my time reading your stupid blog and trying to flame war.Clearly you are completely partisan and you have no sense of humor, so having any sort of enlightened or intelligent conversation with you is out of the question. So, from now on you can have your circle-jerk with the other narrow-minded GOP bloggers, and I’ll leave you alone!



For some reason, I doubt that one of the country’s left wing fringe groups would have an unguarded Wi-Fi connection, since most people, including myself, protect their home networks. Whatever caused this 180 degree turn, I’m proud to know that my blog took away from your precious time.

13 Comments:

At 8:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Huh, seems your "superior intellect" seems to have missed something that is clearly there. I said abortion isn't a big issue for me (meaning I am not obsessed with it like you are). I made the first statement as a joke, which you did not get. You assumed that I worked for EMILY's List, so I decided to mess with you. Looks like it worked.

The "statement's" about abortion being protected by the Constitution based on interpretation by the courts are correct. You may disagree with the USSC's view of the Constitution and how it relates to abortion rights, but it is fact. Read about Roe v. Wade.

I know a lot of people that work at EMILY's List, and they are good people. The organization, which you call "fringe," is the biggest political action committee in the country (even bigger than the NRA - are they a "fringe" group?). Just because you think something isn't true does not make it impossible, they have a wifi hub that is unprotected, but you can believe what you want. Logic and fact have not stopped you from doing that in the past.

The reason why posting on this blog is a waste of time is because you do not know how to engage in civil debate. I cannot think of a single time when you've taken a principled position on an issue. All of the crap on this page seems to be personal. You smell conspiracies everywhere, you always attack DFLers and you tow the GOP line. That, and you have no sense of humor.

 
At 8:10 AM, Blogger Republican Minnesota said...

You sure seem "obsessed" about it. I on the other hand, don't think it is the biggest issue, but it is certainly one of the reasons Republicans have been winning so much the past few years. Trying to say it is about privacy is an attempt to dehumanize abortion so you can win back the pro-life Dems.

If it is such a waste of time, why do you keep coming back for the abuse? They are fringe because so much of what they say and do is against a majority of public opinion. I'm not saying that a majority are pro-life, but that most people see the issue as the right for a woman to choose what to do with her body, not a right to privacy.

 
At 8:23 AM, Anonymous chester.a.cheetah said...

If you are not associated with Emily's List, why did you say "At EMILY's list, we help women running..."

 
At 8:38 AM, Anonymous Francisco said...

You're right, most of the country does see the issue as a right for a woman to choose. The whole privacy debate came up because you implied that EMILY's List kills babies. As far as I know, they neither kill children nor perform abortions (Note to Republican Minnesota: The previous sentence was an attempt at humor, DO NOT TAKE IT LITERALLY). I believe they just try to election pro-choice Democratic women. That isn't being on the fringe. Maybe some people think that trying to elect women to office is a fringe thing, but I disagree. As far as I can tell, they are an outstanding organization. (Some of the NARAL people I could consider fringe)

I keep coming back for the abuse because I am compelled to. It is part of the human condition. I know that no matter how much I argue with you, we'll both leave with our same opinions and probably more frustrated than we were before. I started posting on blogs like this because I sometimes enjoy having a debate on issues with people that disagree with me. Keep me sharp, you know? I started trolling on your site because you would never engage in real debate, you would just make ad hominem attacks. My job is soooo slow and boring that I end up surfing the internet a lot.

I am not obsessed with abortion, there are far more productive and interesting things to talk about. It is such a circular debate. So I'm going to stop making inflammatory remarks on your page, but I will respond to things people say about me. I'll try to contribute meaningful stuff in the future, and I won't even post anonymously anymore. As much fun as it is, I don't want to become the center of attention of your blog.

 
At 8:41 AM, Anonymous Francisco said...

Cheetah, that was part of the joke. I was going along with RM's assumption that I worked there. You'll have to trust me that I don't.

 
At 8:44 AM, Blogger Republican Minnesota said...

Riiiight. You know, it's really sad that you're ashamed of working for such a group.

You don't have to worry about being the center of attention. As soon as Mike Hatch announces, this blog will be on Hatch like white on rice.

 
At 9:04 AM, Anonymous Francisco said...

RM, I overestimated the depth of your character. I'm just going to say that I have nothing gain by pretending to not work at EMILY's List. It's a good group of people who work hard, and it is clear that you don't like them. Maybe I’ll make a contribution in your name to them :)

Maybe you should learn to not alienate your readers, because they're bound to go away.

 
At 10:11 AM, Anonymous leo.swanson said...

Republican Minnesota, no disrespect, but you're a fucking tool. are you like 12 years old?

francisco is right, your blog is all personal attacks, there is no substance!

(my impersonation of Republican Minnesota): Grumble, grumble, well if I block my wifi then everybody does it!

I'm a pro-lifer, and you give us a bad name! Go back to listening to The Partriot and stop trying to think for yourself, youre really embarrassing yourself.

 
At 10:20 AM, Blogger Republican Minnesota said...

Wow, I'm gonna take my marbles and go home. You guys take yourself way too seriously.

I've never listened to the Patriot BECAUSE I like the think for myself. You see, I don't take my orders from anyone. I'm secure enough in my beliefs that I don't need to.

The problem with the GOP rank and file is that they ARE the rank and file. They quote Sean Hannity and Rush instead of coming up with their own ideas.

To quote the guys at the Kool Aid Report: "I'm nobody's monkey."

 
At 10:20 AM, Blogger GOPWingman said...

I'm one of RM's readers and I'm certainly not going anywhere.

 
At 1:03 PM, Blogger PleaseGodNotHillary said...

Just like pre-schoolers: when they don't like WHAT RM says, they complain about HOW he says it.

I'm hangin' in for the long haul, too.

 
At 12:14 AM, Blogger lloydletta said...

Well under Pawlenty, the state system website for collecting credit card transactions for vehicle tab renewal was found by the legislative auditor to open to wireless computers..... I wouldn't dispute this.

The question is whether abortion should be criminalized. Emily's List - and also Republicans for Choice and Repubican Majority for Choice oppose criminalizing abortion.

 
At 5:56 PM, Blogger lloydletta said...

It seems to me that if you want politicians and people to read you, the least you could do is not try to use your stats to expose who you think is reading your blog.

So what if someone from Emily's List reads your blog. You should be happy they are doing that.

 

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